New hearing aids - Rexton Cobalt 16
I picked up my new hearing aids today and thought I would post my initial thoughts. First, let's take a little journey back in time to understand some of my history.
I got my first set of ears 10 years ago. They were the Senso+ model in the CIC (completely-in-the-canal) size, made by Widex. They were almost invisible and functioned fairly well, but after four years they were no longer powerful enough to keep up with my progressive loss, so I got a new set.
The new set were Phonak Claro ITE (in-the-ear) models, and were far more technologically advanced, and also far larger and more noticeable. I was able to control the volume and choose programs using my Phonak wristwatch. I have worn these for about five years now, but again my hearing loss has outgrown the volume possible with these models.
Fast forward to present day. I recently bought a pair of Rexton Cobalt 16 (same as Siemens Pure 700) and a bluetooth remote control that Rexton calls an RCU (same as the Siemens Tek). The Rexton aids are the same exact instruments as the corresponding Siemens models for a much smaller cost. I'm not sure why they do this, but it's true. The hearing aids also feature standard size 312 rechargeable batteries and a charger that also dries the aids overnight. This is really convenient because if I forget to charge my batteries, or find myself somewhere for days without a charger, I can use normal-size 312 batteries.
The Cobalts can be ordered with 45dB or 55dB receivers that use open or closed domes, or with a 65dB receiver that requires a custom micro mold. After a few failed open and closed-dome RIC fittings with a 55db receiver, I went with a micro custom mold RIC and the 65db receivers. Fitting was fairly painless since I am a very experienced user and have a strong knowledge of frequencies and how hearing aids and signal processing works. With the custom mold, they seem to have PLENTY of power--certainly more than I need now.
The sound quality seems pretty good, but I had my audiologist put quite a lot of compression on my main program because my hearing threshold is so close to my pain threshold. I believe my HL number is around 85dB in the speech range, so although I need lots of gain, I am easily overwhelmed by sounds not much louder than that. The compression seems to make things sound distorted, especially in environments where background-noise is high. The music program is pretty much compression-free and music so far sounds pretty good.
Thankfully, the wind reduction system works pretty much as advertised. One of the most annoying things about my Phonak aids was not being able to hear ANYTHING in windy conditions. Everything just sounds like a "camcorder in the wind". The Cobalts produce some wind noise, but not loud enough to be annoying at all.
Unfortunately, we didn't set something up right, so I cannot pair my remote with my bluetooth phone or iPod yet. We'll have to fix this when I go back in a couple weeks.
Overall, like every time my hearing has outgrown my hearing aids, a new set of aids basically means learning to hear again. Things sound very unfamiliar, including my own voice. I will post more in a week or so when I acclimate a little more to my new world of weird sounds.
--Note on the bluetooth remote: it's really a pretty cool feature, and one of the main reasons I chose these aids. The remote is roughly the size of a very small mobile phone, and has 5 program buttons, ON, OFF, volume control, treble control, and status button. There is also a LOCK button that disables all buttons (think about having it in your pocket/purse/etc). The remote also pairs with mobile phones and will send audio binaurally to the aids, and sends your voice to the phone. It has a direct audio jack for iPods, TVs, and basically any other device that can output analog audio. I am truly impressed with the remote--it was well worth $300 as an optional item.
I got my first set of ears 10 years ago. They were the Senso+ model in the CIC (completely-in-the-canal) size, made by Widex. They were almost invisible and functioned fairly well, but after four years they were no longer powerful enough to keep up with my progressive loss, so I got a new set.
The new set were Phonak Claro ITE (in-the-ear) models, and were far more technologically advanced, and also far larger and more noticeable. I was able to control the volume and choose programs using my Phonak wristwatch. I have worn these for about five years now, but again my hearing loss has outgrown the volume possible with these models.
Fast forward to present day. I recently bought a pair of Rexton Cobalt 16 (same as Siemens Pure 700) and a bluetooth remote control that Rexton calls an RCU (same as the Siemens Tek). The Rexton aids are the same exact instruments as the corresponding Siemens models for a much smaller cost. I'm not sure why they do this, but it's true. The hearing aids also feature standard size 312 rechargeable batteries and a charger that also dries the aids overnight. This is really convenient because if I forget to charge my batteries, or find myself somewhere for days without a charger, I can use normal-size 312 batteries.
The Cobalts can be ordered with 45dB or 55dB receivers that use open or closed domes, or with a 65dB receiver that requires a custom micro mold. After a few failed open and closed-dome RIC fittings with a 55db receiver, I went with a micro custom mold RIC and the 65db receivers. Fitting was fairly painless since I am a very experienced user and have a strong knowledge of frequencies and how hearing aids and signal processing works. With the custom mold, they seem to have PLENTY of power--certainly more than I need now.
The sound quality seems pretty good, but I had my audiologist put quite a lot of compression on my main program because my hearing threshold is so close to my pain threshold. I believe my HL number is around 85dB in the speech range, so although I need lots of gain, I am easily overwhelmed by sounds not much louder than that. The compression seems to make things sound distorted, especially in environments where background-noise is high. The music program is pretty much compression-free and music so far sounds pretty good.
Thankfully, the wind reduction system works pretty much as advertised. One of the most annoying things about my Phonak aids was not being able to hear ANYTHING in windy conditions. Everything just sounds like a "camcorder in the wind". The Cobalts produce some wind noise, but not loud enough to be annoying at all.
Unfortunately, we didn't set something up right, so I cannot pair my remote with my bluetooth phone or iPod yet. We'll have to fix this when I go back in a couple weeks.
Overall, like every time my hearing has outgrown my hearing aids, a new set of aids basically means learning to hear again. Things sound very unfamiliar, including my own voice. I will post more in a week or so when I acclimate a little more to my new world of weird sounds.
--Note on the bluetooth remote: it's really a pretty cool feature, and one of the main reasons I chose these aids. The remote is roughly the size of a very small mobile phone, and has 5 program buttons, ON, OFF, volume control, treble control, and status button. There is also a LOCK button that disables all buttons (think about having it in your pocket/purse/etc). The remote also pairs with mobile phones and will send audio binaurally to the aids, and sends your voice to the phone. It has a direct audio jack for iPods, TVs, and basically any other device that can output analog audio. I am truly impressed with the remote--it was well worth $300 as an optional item.
Comments
I know what you mean about having to learn to hear with your new aids each time. Also I've noticed when there's a new drop in hearing I always feel deafer for a few weeks until I get better at lip reading. Have been going thru this for over thirty years.
I seem to lose about 5-10dB every 5 years for the last 25 years. So being at 85dB now, I really think this is the last set of hearing aids I will have. Hearing aids are truly wonderful when your loss is mild or moderate, but the disadvantages of hearing aids get so severe when you loss is really high.
I imagine my choice 5 years from now will be total ASL, or CI and ASL. I am very glad I've been taking ASL classes for 2 years now, and plan to take the 3rd year class in September.
I'm profoundly deaf in many speech tones, but have great low tones. The hearing aids just aren't cutting it at this point. I wear my pocket talker at work more and more. Last year I qualified for an experimental hybrid. I'm seriously thinking of getting that eval again before purchasing another pair of aids because I know my hearing has gotten worse since last year.
But I've been putting it off-- the first time I've EVER put off getting new aids. I'm bookmarking your blog. :-)
Through my classes, I am getting more involved with friends who obviously are either learning ASL or are Deaf or part of the local Deaf community. Even if I get a CI, it is important to remember that at the end of the day I am still Deaf, so I will make decisions with that in mind.
I wish you luck whatever your choice. I'm wearing my old ears today to give my sore ears a rest. new molds are never comfortable right away...
Again, the low prices don't mean much is you aren't happy with the service. For me Costco's low prices and good service just can't be beat!
And, a week ago - 2 1/2 months after I paid for and receive my "ears" Roger called and said I had a refund coming because Costco has worked out a better deal with Rexton. I went down and picked up $774 cash refund! That is unheard of! Prices go down and nobody cares that you paid the higher price - except Costco.
QUESTION I HAVE IS WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PROGRAMS, MUSIC, SPEECH, TELEPONE, MUSIC, OUTDOORS, ETC. THAT THEY SAY IS PROGRAMED IN THE AIDS. WILL THEY SELF CORRECT AS THEY ARE USED OR MUST THEY BE REPROGRAMED AS I DON'T SEE THAT THEY WORK NOW. WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER FEATURES SOUND LOCATOR, AUTOMATIC ACCLIMATIZATION FEATUE , FEEDACK CANCELATION, AUTOMATIC NOISE REDUCTION, SOUND SMOOTHING, WIND NOISE CANCELATION, SOUND LOCATOR AND DATA LOGGING. ARE THEY AUTOMATIC OR DO THEY HAVE TO BE SET AND ENABLED TO WORK?
COMMENTS AND INFORMATION WOULD BE APPRECIATED. RTS
The fitter at Costco, Selma TX, has been very helpful. I have been back four different times for different domes, adjustments and their normal follow up.
The fitter is trying to leave the aids on automatic which means their are no programs. I am a musician also so they have been used in difficult listening environments. The prior aids all distorted in the environment of 100dB music. These distort only slightly. I am going to go back to hopefully get these adjusted to where they do not distort at all in the music environment. I have a feeling the compression may adjust too high in these hearing settings.
These aids are invisible to others. When I mention them the person observing cannot see the small body behind the ear or the wire with the receiver going into the ear.
I paid $2,600 with two year replacement if lost and 3 year warranty if broken. I am using an open dome in my right ear so I can use the phone. Right ear is moderate severe so I can get away with the open dome. Lefr ear is severe and requires more gain so I use a modified closed dome. I have a slight pie cut out (done with scissors)because of the aggravating occlusion effect.
So far my experience has been very good. I do believe I will go back for a few more fine tuning adjustments. This experience I would reccomend to anyone.
COSTCO will test your hearing free if you are a member. There is no pressure to buy cuz the fitter is an employee an makes no commission on the hearing aid sell.
Ted
thanks in advance...from canada !!
my email is troylanam@msn.com
Last night was a remarkable experience - hearing the birds in a tree made me stop and stare for a while...
I'm an engineer and one of the things I did last night was sit in front of a frequency generator and try them out. I notice at certain pure frequencies it "chirps". Around 3kHz is the first... I've not looked into them technically yet - can anyone else confirm that this happens, or tell me why it would happen?
I would appreciate knowing if there is a diagnosis.
I believe with any fitting it will take time either to get used to the new aids or settings. I am not particularly picky but I bet I have been back once a quarter for settings changes. Alone for the bluetooth I have had 3 or 4 additional visits.
From what I have read HA's only last 5 years anyway. I would go get some more of the new generation. Take your wallet with you.
Given my advanced loss (85-90dB) it's pretty remarkable how well they work for me. The problems associated with 85dB are much more difficult to deal with than when I had a lesser loss (say, 50dB).
I expect to replace mine about every 5 years, max. This is my third set since 1998, but I also need to upgrade to more and more powerful models as my hearing fades. I had a CIC in 1998, then an ITE in 2003. I had to switch to BTE and the most powerful receiver in 2009.
Best of luck, whatever you decide!
I used mine at church a few times using our monitor system. As I play and we use a click the latency of the bluetooth was killing me so I went back to being hard wired.
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